1. Nothing in the article pointed to defiance in any way.
Well, this is deep water. I happen to believe that for all its ups and downs, a formal education solidifies a person’s credentials educationally, but will not gauge how much a person truly learns. BUT…”unschooling” is a good supplement to a formal education at some point in life. If for no other reason, there may be many semi-success stories with this concept (the author’s children don’t seem successful at anything other than defiance to me right now)1, the world has and will continue to shun people without a formal education. In my household, this would simply be another barrier in my child’s future, considering he has other challenges. In essence, how can a child who is already disadvantaged expect to be received into society without a credible foundation? If I were to “unschool” my child, I can guarantee that he will NEVER get a job.2 He may be intelligent enough to start his own business with all the inovative ideas he learned on his unschooling quests, but his lack of education would only be a drawback to potential investors or others who may be instrumental to the success of his ventures. In summary, let’s be honest: if I were trying to purchase a home and I had NO credit at all, a bank would not loan me $500,000. An educational record is a lot like that credit record: it doesn’t tell everything about a person, but it may highlight some highs and lows that would give insight into what a person is like to someone who does not know them personally. As a manager, I would NEVER, under any circumstances, hire a person who has never been formally educated. Not on my formal payroll, anyway.3
2. Doesn't that seem like a curse!? He will never get a job. HOW can she "guarantee" that? Not everyone believes as she does.
3. Her loss.
(The quote is from page 2 of comments on the interview at http://www.momlogic.com/2010/04/why_i_unschooled_my_three_kids.php?page=2#ixzz0m4eop2W4, but I was tired of putting comments there.
Oh! Glenda wasn't too tired, and did respond:
Glenda APRIL 23, 2010, 10:31 PM
===As a manager, I would NEVER, under any circumstances, hire a person who has never been formally educated. Not on my formal payroll, anyway.===
So it’s a good thing there are plenty of college graduates in need of a job right now! And what the heck would an informal payroll be, anyway???
There’s room in this world for people who think traditionally, such as yourself, and for people who think outside the box and focus on the individuals who work for and with them.
I’ve worked for the traditional thinkers — most boring jobs I’ve ever had. I’ve worked for out-of-the-box thinkers — most enjoyable jobs I’ve ever had. The out-of-the-box employers have also been the most successful in terms of “having it all”.
===the author’s children don’t seem successful at anything other than defiance to me right now===
We read the same article, right??? And you somehow managed to read in it that her kids are defiant??? Wow.
===If I were to “unschool” my child, I can guarantee that he will NEVER get a job.===
But you know what? You would not be successful at unschooling the way you currently think. You think in limitations; unschoolers don’t.
I’ve never heard an unschooler, even those who have kids with disabilities, say anything remotely along the lines of, “I guarantee my child will NEVER get a job.” There is more than one path to happiness and success (though it’s pretty obvious you and I define “success” quite differently) — that’s what I love about unschooling parents in general, their desire to help their kids explore whichever paths their kids desire.
Ronnie too. Glenda and Ronnie, THANK YOU!
Ronnie APRIL 23, 2010, 11:00 PM
Defiant? As in, people who are defying something? What exactly are they supposed to be defying?
I am baffled as to what has given you this impression, so I’ll just set about correcting it. I have met all three Dodd offspring and cannot think of an adjective more inappropriate to use in describing them. They are warm, gracious, fun, and friendly people.
Jenny Cyphers, just the part about defiance:
“the author’s children don’t seem successful at anything other than defiance to me right now”
One child has been employed since the age of 14 and now works in a job he enjoys. Another child has worked on and off in various jobs that he’s chosen and has been well regarded by his employers. The youngest child has been travelling around helping with other families children, one could see that as experience being an “au pair”, if nothing else. Three children, who visit home, live at home, or call home frequently, maintain contact with their siblings and parents, and still help each other out willingly. Where in there is defiance?
My kids didn't have anything to defy. We were on their side, helping them out!